Tuesday, March 27, 2007

It's not "Castle Doctrine", dammit!

Governor Rick Perry did as he promised and signed into law a bill that strengthens the right of Texans to defend themselves.

Two things one should keep foremost in mind:

1) It comes into effect on Sept 1, which is about six or so months away -- it's not immediate; and

2) It's a "Stand Your Ground" law, not "Castle Doctrine" -- we already had a "Castle Doctrine" law.

While some of the new law is actually redundant -- Chapter Nine of the Penal Code already states that a citizen may use deadly force to prevent a fairly comprehensive list of felonies, and it applies a "reasonable man" test to any duty to retreat -- but the civil immunity part is jolly well outstanding.

I have to admit, this quote by the Washington Post:

"...the citizens of this state where guns are ubiquitous ..."

gives me the warm fuzzies.

Ubiquitous. Goodness, they hauled out the thesaurus, didn't they?

"Guns are 'ubiquitous' in Texas." Damned skippy they are, and we like it that way, too.

Cue gun-grabber snivelling in five ... four ... three ...

Ah, well. I think in honour of this new law, I'll take my tax return and go buy myself a sleek little 9mm with a Czech pedigree.

LawDog

24 comments:

martywd said...

Yes, living in Texas is a good thing.  I'd guess your thinking on that CZ P01?  Right?

phlegmfatale said...

Ubiquitous? It ain't braggin' if it's true.

D.W. Drang said...

Hey, Stand Your Ground has been The Law in Washington State (AKA "Washington AC") for decades, which, come to think of it, is how long we've had "Shall Issue" concealed carry permits, too.
AND Sarah Brady says we're "Gun Crazy."
So there.

Hammer said...

I'm lovin it. You're right LD, I need to buy something to celebrate.

Murphy said...

"Cue gun-grabber snivelling in five ... four ... three ..."

The Austin 'American' Statesman already had an editorial last week opining that this bill would 'encourage violent confrontations...'

It kind of gives me the warm and fuzzies as well.

Rabbit said...

You're still welcome to try my PCR before you go ahead and get your own.

Regards,
Rabbit.

ArfinGreebly said...

Ahhh.

Been waiting to hear your take on the CZ P01.

I've been vacillating twixt the P01 and the 75B in 9mm, so yer input will be most welcome.

Glad to hear yer laws is gettin' better. Warms the heart.

~~ ArfinGreebly (THR)

Bradley said...

a 9mm europellit, are you planning on shooting eurowimps? 9mm not a good round (not a bad round) but you need another 45 to shoot real men, or the close facsimile that you have there in TX. :D

Stephen Renico said...

Surprisingly, liberal and mostly Democrat Michigan has had a Stand Your Ground Law for nearly two years already.

(Once you get outside of New Fallujah/Detroit and the People's Republic of Ann Arbor, the people actually become more normal)

Welcome to the club.

Cybrludite said...

Bradley,

Let me borrow my Dad's 9mm & you just stand still. Heck, I'll make it easier for you & just use my own .32 ACP... It's not the weapon in the hand, but the tiger in the heart.

Cybrludite said...

Oh, and the shot placement.

Dr. StrangeGun said...

DrCzechGun.... uh, I mean DrStrangeGun says "Yay!".

I mean what, I've only got four of the darn things. No, five. 27, 52, 70, 75B Compact, 75B .40 Compact...

What that means is that I still need a 38, a 50, an 82 and 83, an 85, a 92, a brace of Tanfoglio's large frame clones in .38S, .45, and 10mm, one of the 100's just to round the collection out, and then I'd need to start hunting down a Fox and a 22..... and find one of the horribly obscure Colt revolver copies form the 50's.

dracphelan said...

I agree. Though I will be celebrating a little later. I'm wanting one of the new Mossberg 4x4 rifles coming out in a couple of months. They look gorgeous. It's either that, or a couple of single shot rifles (one in 223, one in 30.06).

Kristopher said...

Stay away from the CZ-100.

Oregon has had both castle doctine, stand your ground, and lawsuit immunity from burglars for quite some time.

Unfortunately, the CA moonbats are now a majority here ... expect all that to change once they get enough of their socialist monkeys elected.

Rorschach said...

I think I'll invest in a Ruger MkII to celebrate with so I can hone the shot placement without breaking the bank.... MAN I need to spend more time at the range....

The stand your ground think is, as Lawdog says is really a non-issue since we've had "Stand your ground", probably as far back as the 1870's, if not longer. The real issue is the civil immunity. THAT is a very big deal. No more grandmothers suing you for everything you have for killing their "baby" who just happens to be 350lbs and a two time felon and was flying on PCP and/or Speed when he decided to empty your gun safe for you.....

That my friends is not a bad thing.

Rorschach said...

I'm curious, if anyone knows I'd appreciate them letting me know. Just when was "stand your ground" incorporated into Texas law? Was it in 1836 when we became an independent Republic? was it 1845 when we became a state? or was it 1869 when our state constitution was rewritten in the aftermath of the civil war? or is it more recent?

Justin said...

You forgot the RAMI/2075 there, Dr. Strangegun.

If only we could get our hands on the 110. That'd be nice.

HankB said...

LawDog, guns ARE ubiquitous here - last week at the National Museum of the Pacific War in Fredericksburg, TX, I saw a re-enactment of a WWII Allied assault on a Jap pillbox with machine guns, M1's BARs, a flamethrower, even a tank. The host emphasized that they had to use blanks because ". . . the neighbors had more guns than the museum!"

LogEyed Roman said...

Wow. I think I just had an epiphany: Texas is the center of world civilization. (Well, maybe Israel and Switzerland aren't so bad.)

Though I've only been to Texas once, my father's family has a long pedigree. We have this distant cousin whose name was Sam. Sam Houston. You may have heard of him...

Ron White, the comedian, remarked that one thing he loved about being from Texas is that "...we have the death penalty and we USE it!" At the time he made those remarks, Texas was considering a law that if your crime was especially heinous and there were more than three eyewitnesses, you don't wait 15 years on death row; they send you straight to the head of the line. "Other states are talking about abolishing the death penalty. Texas is putting in an Express Lane!"

Seriously; the highly-regarded Catholic writer G.K. Chesterton said that if he sailed to a new country and the first thing that came over the horizon was a gallows, he'd know he was arriving at civilization, because here were people who valued human life.

Well done, Texas.

LER

markm said...

Rorschach, "stand your ground" is older than the Texas Republic, older than the USA, older than Plymouth colony or Jamestown, and older than Magna Carta. A thousand years ago, when an Englishman shot a burglar with his longbow, if the law got called at all, it was only to comment on the accuracy of the shooting and see that the miscreant's relatives didn't make trouble.

The question for any state where this isn't still common law is, when did the bastards sneak by a change?

KBCraig said...

Thank you, Bro. Dog!

I thought I was the only one beating my head against the brick wall of poor terminology. But, it seems the term "castle doctrine" is too firmly rooted, when it has nothing to do with one's castle.

I do wish they'd extend the castle walls to include one's motor vehicle, so that anything you could legally possess in your home would also be legal in your car.

mt said...

Ubiquitous. Goodness, they hauled out the thesaurus, didn't they?

Thank you! My wife and I have noticed that word being used more and more lately by people trying to show how smart they are and it is driving us nuts.

Rorschach said...

MarkM, eh yes and no, The Brits have always been a little schitz on that point. It wasn't until the reign of Henry the VIII that parliament passed a self-defense law. Up until then if you injured or killed someone in self-defense, you were likely to be charged with a crime yourself.

http://www.claytoncramer.com/DefendingSelfDefense.html

Chuck Bennett said...

Texas has no personal income tax and now this.

If I can get my wife through med school (so she can keep me in the style I'd like to get used too) We might have to leave Ohio and move to a more civilized place like Texas.

My tax return is going for a plain 'ol 1911 and some new dies for the Dillon 650.