Monday, February 27, 2012

Seriously?

In comments, Gentle Reader Jack Zedee states:

"Lawdog

just confirmed via ICANN renewal and notification address for smoke and thunder was

1730 Rhode Island Avenue, NW
Suite 1014
Washington, DC 20036

admin named just as admin"

Okay ... can someone translate that for me?

I understand that the address comes back to the HQ for the Violence Policy Centre, but is this a separate verification from the redirect found by others yesterday, or is it related?

Is this new evidence independently verifiable?

In other words -- and do forgive me the pun, but I simply cannot resist -- is this the smoking gun, or is it more circumstantial evidence?

LawDog

13 comments:

TheMinuteman said...

This is unconfirmed. I had someone, completely unknown to me and again unverified drop the same comment on my blog.

I don't know how they would have obtained said information give the Smoke and Thunder domain name was registered privately. IE the contact info is a proxy.

I would say this individual is tied to the original troll.

Red Five said...

I just did a whois of the domain name (which I will not mention), and all the contact addresses point to "PrivacyProtect.org" with an address in Queensland AU, but that domain's IP address resolves to Oklahoma City. Meanwhile, the blog's domain seems to be hosted on ARVIXE, which appears to be a fairly small hosting company in Santa Rosa, CA (though the server IP resolves to Dallas), and currently displays a typical "under construction" page. The domain's registrar seems to be located in Beaverton, OR.

For what it's worth.

Le Conteur said...

An exorcism and or a "burying of an annoying SOB" might help.

Le Conteur

Jay said...

Red 5: I live in OKC...what IP did you find that traced here?

As far as I can tell their site is hosted in Santa Clara, at "Arvixe"

50.0% Answered from ns1.louse.arvixe.com (100.42.52.118)

smokeandthunder.com. 14400 IN A 100.42.59.20

50.0% Answered from ns2.louse.arvixe.com (100.42.59.20)

smokeandthunder.com. 14400 IN A 100.42.59.20


The IP addresses can then be traced through a quick ARIN search:

http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-100-42-48-0-1/pft

that link shows Arvixe in CA, and www.arvixe.com is apparently a regular web hosting service. No way of telling where the smokeandthunder.com registrar "lives" unless you can convince the Privacy Protect folks to give it up.

Pyrotek85 said...

It sounds like someone is trying to bait us IMO.

taylor said...

Red Five,

PrivacyProtect.org is just a service that lets you host an IP without registering personal info with ICANN (Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers...the people who manage how URLs resolve to IPs).

The way most of these "Privacy" groups work, the billing and renewal info for the URL ought to go to this PrivacyPolicy.org group who forwards it, not the actual owner.

Makes me question the veracity of the claim your getting Lawdog. It also makes me question this site. If your a legitimate business, why hide behind a privacy screen?

Best course of action is to ignore it and let it die of apathy

Dave H said...

taylor: "If your a legitimate business, why hide behind a privacy screen?"

An liberty advocate would respond, "If I'm a legitimate business, why does it matter?"

Although personally I prefer to know who I'm dealing with, so in this case I agree with your apathy suggestion.

armedandsafe said...

LawDog, I have worked (over the net) with Jack Zedee for several years now. He is straight and has some tools to get into sources that are very good.

Pops

Kristopher said...

Someone calling themselves John T also tried posting that address in the comments at:

http://www.the-minuteman.org/content/2012/February/26/Just-Smoking-Blunder-Wins-Barron-Barnett

He declined to post proof of this, so his comment was deleted.

It is looking like the site owner may have intentionally redirected his own site to VPC just to troll folks ( including myself ) after he got slapped by gun bloggers for being a 'tard.

I think your original plan to just ignore him may have been the best one.

Groundhog said...

This is relatively simple. Even the, how shall we say, overconfident gunnies with big payrolls and big egos are fairly polite even while "dissenting" with their lowly blogger brethren. The person running this site has proven themselves scum. If this person was a gunnie, and you knew him, would not every single person leave the range the moment this guy showed up? Nuff said.

Except get rid of your captcha...

Old NFO said...

I'm still ignoring him/it... :-)

tanksoldier said...

I have to wonder if posting the false profiles in some way violates his hosting company's TOS.

Dave Calhoun said...

VPC's website verifies that as their address.