Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Well, that's different

Tonight, we here at The LawDog Files have learned that the White House has a section of its website upon which one may create a petition.

Then, if that petition gains 25,000 signatures within a certain period of time -- I think about thirty days -- the Administration will issue a response.

In response to the recent election, some enterprising soul has created a petition to allow Texas to withdraw from the United States and form its own government.

Anyone in the Administration who didn't see something like this coming shouldn't be allowed outside without a minder, but I digress.

The petition was created on 09 NOV 2012, and needs 25,000 signatures by 09 DEC 2012. As of 12 NOV 2012 there were double the needed amount of signatures, with more coming.

Heh.

You don't have to be Carnac the Magnificent to foretell the official response from the Administration -- something polite masking giggles, giant Bronx cheers, and probably a cocked snook or two -- but I signed it anyway.

I noticed that several other (lesser) States had similar petitions up, but Texas was in the lead by a good bit, which either makes me extremely proud or slightly worried.

LawDog

27 comments:

DJMoore said...

I see there were quite a few that were not from Texas.

Are these ex-Texs, or folks wanting to be rid of us?

Well Seasoned Fool said...

Texas isn't another country?

MSgt B said...

Hmmm...

Healthiest state economy in the nation wanting to keep all their marbles and go home?

Naw. Must be a hoax...

Dave said...

The White House petition site is a joke. Once a petition reaches 25,000 signatures, an intern sends out a form letter explaining why the current policy on whatever the petition is about is better than what the petitioners are asking for. Still, I'm tempted to sign this just to see what the interns say.

BGMiller said...

Proud and worried seems the right mix to me 'Dog.


That being said.
I could see myself moving there.


BGM

Old NFO said...

Yep, signed it too, and you just KNOW that whole list of signatures is going directly to DHS and on 'another' list... As if I'm not on enough of them already... Bitter Clinger and all that... :-)

Anonymous said...

It's an internet petition. Internet petitions are about as meaningful as ... well ...

I'm not sure if there's anything less meaningful than an internet petition. I'll have to ponder that one for a bit.

Roger said...

I have read that Texas is the only state that can legally secede from the union. Something about when Texas came into the union they insisted upon the right to secede if they chose to. Would be very interesting to check this out.

Nathan said...

Roger, I've heard that for years (native Texan here) So I finally decided to look it up on Snopes.
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/texas.asp

Last statement on that page is this:
"Another Texas-related legend holds that the Texans negotiated an annexation treaty which reserved to them the right to secede from the Union without the consent of the U.S. Congress, but the terms of Texas' annexation contain no such provision."

Gopher said...

DO I really need to be on ANOTHER list in Washington?

shovelDriver said...

Texas, nor any other State, was ever "annexed". Annexation is a "taking", whereas the States each, individually, voluntarily "joined" in a Union.

And if you can read, the "Document of Joining", normally called the Constitution, does indeed allow for the unilateral cancellation of membership.

For that matter, it is accepted law that Contract Law allows eoither party to withdraw . . .

shovelDriver said...

For those who may not kn ow, Snopes is anything but an authoritative source.

I won't provide my references; all you need do is "google it". "Snoping It" just doesn't work out quite as well.

txgecko said...

that's a negative on the right to secede - it was the right to split up into fives separate states, due to our rather unusual size. Even if we did have such a right on annexation, methinks it would have been used up in the Civil War. I haven't signed the petition. Don't get me wrong, I'm as proud a Texan as they come, but I don't think it's time to give up on America. Not yet, at any rate, and not for a long while yet, God willing. That said, I'm rather glad it's gotten so many signatures - it will bring attention to the fact that there are serious concerns about the future of the country.

Farm.Dad said...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/wh-petition-calls-stripping-citizenship-and-exile-anyone-who-signs-petition-secede_663282.html

without comment

Jennifer said...

heh. What's one more list, after all

txgecko said...

snort. Aaand now the Austinites are getting involved: they want to secede from texas and become their own state.

Anonymous said...

Texas joined the union before the civil war, and that war likely ended all realistic succession talk.

RE: Austinites: succession is contagious. Just ask West Virginia.

I can see others signing that petition to get rid of Texas.

Suisan said...

I, like LawDawg, signed a petition for my state to peacefully withdraw . . . knowing full well that I just placed my name on the "Watch List" and may very wel screw myself out of the 20th wedding anniversary trip to Ireland.

Oh well, won't be the first time a member of my family was labled a "subversive" by some government agency or agent.

Mattexian said...

Make sure to sign the petition at the Texas Nationalist Movement, their's will be submitted to our Legislature when they next meet. While the WH says they'll reviiew it and comment, I kinda doubt anything will happen in DC, except adding to their list of anti-gubmint militia nut types. http://TexasNationalist.com/

toadold said...

I want to get behind that petition for Austin to depart from Texas. I've been trying to think up how the wording should go. Generally I'm thinking we give Austin to Mexico right after we put up the fences and check points around it.
So far if the feds want to take reprisals against those who signed the petitions to depart they are going to have a manpower problem. If they put that many people on a no fly list the shaky airlines, already facing a pilot shortage to to FAA regs, will collapse.

Jenny said...

proud. Definitely stick with proud. :)

Steve C said...

.." It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

Wraith said...

You don't ask permission to secede. You just do it, and prepare to back it up.

Anonymous said...

Actually as of last count (today) there are 27 states with active petitions to secede. Seems a trend is brewing...

Why not have all the states but maybe DC and Cali successfully secede and create a new Constitutional Republic? The United States of the Constitutional Republic of America. Hmmm, doesn't quite roll of the tongue, but still makes me feel warm and fuzzy...

Jonathan Pinkerton said...

Frankly, I didn't see it coming -- because I wasn't even remotely prepared for the eventuality that the Big Mistake would get re-elected.

Also, I note with interest that many of the Texas petition signers.... are not Texans.

Jonathan Pinkerton said...

Suisan -- If you're not labeled as a "Subversive" on some government list somewhere, you're probably not a patriot.

Jeremy Brock said...

I signed the thing too, although my signature probably doesn't--and arguably shouldn't--count, what with being a non-Texan and all.

Note to the DHS blog monitors and/or Line Eater jockeys: You oughta see some of the really crazy stuff I've signed there--most recently, the one to nationalize Twinkie production. Which I take just about as seriously.