tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post115448807229284784..comments2023-11-27T02:17:22.859-06:00Comments on The LawDog Files: Meditations on evacuationsLawDoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05232684877582591461noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1156673642820953602006-08-27T05:14:00.000-05:002006-08-27T05:14:00.000-05:00" In overpopulated cities like this, where so many..." In overpopulated cities like this, where so many people rely on public transportation and don't even own cars, what do you suggest for getting the hell out of Dodge?"<BR/><BR/>Be prepared to evacuate and GET OUT before the "official order." If you wait until the government tells you to get out, you won't. You'll just be stuck in the gridlock.<BR/><BR/>Me, I'll just stay in my small inland town. Occasional tornado. Last earthquake that did damage was over a hundred years ago and the damage was over a hundred miles away. It did knock some bricks out of chimneys around here.<BR/><BR/>Most people who are bound and determined to maintain residence in an urban area that is vulnerable to a major disaster might be better served by assessing how to survive that scenario without evacuating. The only way to be sure of evacuation from a major urban area is to leave early. This will inevitably entail evacuations that turn out to be unnecessary. But waiting until it is obviously necessary means waiting until everyone else is evacuating with you. That won't be very much fun.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154828289167078192006-08-05T20:38:00.000-05:002006-08-05T20:38:00.000-05:00wouldn't mind a bit if you'ld check your definitio...wouldn't mind a bit if you'ld check your definition on 'liberal'.. cause last I heard it meant tolerant. <BR/><BR/>which can equally include conservative.. not a darn thing REQUIRES liberals to change anything, mostly they don't want to be told what to do. *CLAIMING* to be 'liberal'.. and then using that as an excuse for taxation, repression, and central government control is FASCISM. .. I can CLAIM to be a fireman, but if i pour kerosine across your front porch, i bet you don't believe me very LONG.<BR/><BR/>That's about how i feel to hear liberals insulted. Just cause one, or a hundred, or ten thousand liars claim Christianity to cover their crimes, doesn't make Christians criminals.. nor does the fact a BUNCH of fascists claim to be liberals make tolerance unsavory.<BR/><BR/>Heck, I heard that the administration that had done more damage to the deficit than any other was claiming to be conservative. I KNOW better.. ..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154738672467307362006-08-04T19:44:00.000-05:002006-08-04T19:44:00.000-05:00After the 1989 earthquake in California, my parent...After the 1989 earthquake in California, my parents kept the camping gear and supplies in a shed/shack in the backyard instead on inside the house. I suppose it was to keep eveything in one spot as well as to protect it in case the house collapsed.<BR/><BR/>(Of course, this may not be good for hurricanes if the winds can blow the structure over or away.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154649350888758802006-08-03T18:55:00.000-05:002006-08-03T18:55:00.000-05:00Great post, Dog. Think I'll link to it if y'all do...Great post, Dog. Think I'll link to it if y'all don't mind. Family and friends are scattered hither and yon some in hurricane zones and others in earthquake country. They just may find it useful.joatedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415726428637484056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154648851544323572006-08-03T18:47:00.000-05:002006-08-03T18:47:00.000-05:00From my experience during and after Rita, I can on...From my experience during and after Rita, I can only tell you that it is probably more pleasant and less terrifying to stay at home during a category 3 hurricane than evacuating.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154645669918056032006-08-03T17:54:00.000-05:002006-08-03T17:54:00.000-05:00Excellent advice! Thanks:)Excellent advice! Thanks:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154626300264736362006-08-03T12:31:00.000-05:002006-08-03T12:31:00.000-05:00Karla,Believe it or not these folks - http://www.z...Karla,<BR/><BR/>Believe it or not these folks - http://www.zombiehunters.org - do real, quality disaster stuff. They just follow the same philosophy I've been espousing for years that, if you're ready for zombies then you're ready for pretty much anything else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154623359682597292006-08-03T11:42:00.000-05:002006-08-03T11:42:00.000-05:00LD, some practical detail questions. What kinds of...LD, some practical detail questions. <BR/><BR/>What kinds of places make good Rally Points? I get the idea that they need to be more or less evenly spaced along the route and that everybody needs to know where they are and have access to them. I'd guess that they shouldn't be REAL obvious to outsiders - not stapled to the rest stop ads board. How about "under a rock by the northwest leg of the watertower at mile marker 364"?<BR/><BR/>Some strategies for choosing appropriate places would be appreciated. Also, any sources for PRACTICAL bug out bag lists? Something grounded in the real world, not post end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154614290435836912006-08-03T09:11:00.000-05:002006-08-03T09:11:00.000-05:00I've spent all my life living near or on a South J...I've spent all my life living near or on a South Jersey barrier island, and learned at an early age why they call them that. I couldn't fathom not having at least two get out of dodge routes and safe haven well in land for me my family, dogs and guns.<BR/>Every six months or so we go thru the Hurricane boxes and replace expired food and dead batteries. First inklink of anything more then a glancing pass I'm outta here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154551896524216672006-08-02T15:51:00.000-05:002006-08-02T15:51:00.000-05:00I to say that is an excellent post. I've never had...I to say that is an excellent post. I've never had to evacuate but what you say is the truth. So many people expect the 'guberment' to save their harry hinnie, right then, right there!<BR/><BR/>And yes, depend on yourself, just as the people who first came to this land did!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154545082446343222006-08-02T13:58:00.000-05:002006-08-02T13:58:00.000-05:00Excellent post, especially for people in the more ...Excellent post, especially for people in the more mainstream/suburban areas of the country. My question is this... What suggestions do you have for the masses living in crowded northeastern metropolises where often "alternate routes" aren't such an option? There are only a certain number of routes into/out of Manhattan. DC isn't much better. In overpopulated cities like this, where so many people rely on public transportation and don't even own cars, what do you suggest for getting the hell out of Dodge?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154544873722755552006-08-02T13:54:00.000-05:002006-08-02T13:54:00.000-05:00Living in the foothills of the Smokies, with famil...Living in the foothills of the Smokies, with family in Charleston and southern Florida, I'm the designated destination. Yes, please let your planned destination know ahead of time, and clue them in. A head count, and any required medical or dietary needs would be very useful information, for example.<BR/> And hey, if you show up unannounced with 14 uninvited friends for the week, expect some harsh words!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154544513654580862006-08-02T13:48:00.000-05:002006-08-02T13:48:00.000-05:00Good advice brother. I tried to link to this post...Good advice brother. I tried to link to this post, I haven't broken the code on that yet.Pawpawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14959820068377494313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154541938164261412006-08-02T13:05:00.000-05:002006-08-02T13:05:00.000-05:00God bless you, LawDog! I'm forwarding this to my ...God bless you, LawDog! I'm forwarding this to my parents (who are utterly unprepared 30 miles inland of Charleston, SC) and my brother (also utterly inprepared IN Charleston, SC).<BR/><BR/>You're much easier reading than anything on ready-dot-gov. Maybe they'll pay attention ... for a change.Alpineman, RNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01945070664217256254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154540678693143852006-08-02T12:44:00.000-05:002006-08-02T12:44:00.000-05:00Thanks Lawdog. Good idea. However, as we are about...Thanks Lawdog. Good idea. However, as we are about 2-2.5 hrs N of you in OK, do you have any ideas for us in tornadoland?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154535908945553892006-08-02T11:25:00.000-05:002006-08-02T11:25:00.000-05:00I would say everyone should also make sure they ha...I would say everyone should also make sure they have enough water for the trip. The route we took during Rita is a three hour drive most times... it was a sixteen hour drive during the evacuation. It was my husband and myself, a cockatiel, two cats, and four dogs. It could be hours before you see a store to pull in at, and once you get there it's probably closed. Thankfully, my husband planned ahead for that and we didn't have to learn it the hard way.<BR/><BR/>Also, you may want to have some means of using the bathroom within the privacy of your vehichle. If you're stopped in bumper to bumper traffic for hours, no restroom in sight, and you don't want to get out because you don't know when traffic will move again... well, when ya gotta go, ya gotta go.Abejarron Caoticohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10376827988664798139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154534798490681092006-08-02T11:06:00.000-05:002006-08-02T11:06:00.000-05:00Last year for Rita I found an 'I hate highways' ro...Last year for Rita I found an 'I hate highways' route for my brother and his wife to get from Houston to Dallas (actually a suburb SW of Houston). He flew their plane and provided 'high cover' for her in the car. She only hit two snags and both were where she crossed an 'official' route. He was even able to spot an open and (relatively) uncrowded gas station for her around the half-way point. Still took her about twice as long going there as it did to get home, but it showed how much faster / safer / better it is to avoid the 'main' routes.<BR/><BR/>Both our vehicles have in-car navigation that can be set to avoid highways.<BR/><BR/>Like the Rally Point idea - I'll have to pass that one along (well, probably just a pointer to this post).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154530224401231972006-08-02T09:50:00.000-05:002006-08-02T09:50:00.000-05:00Plans are in place, preps are ongoing, and the 'co...Plans are in place, preps are ongoing, and the 'cousins' know we're coming, if it comes down to a bug-out!Vic303https://www.blogger.com/profile/09230018179417281781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154526352035024872006-08-02T08:45:00.000-05:002006-08-02T08:45:00.000-05:00Our plan's been in place since the missus saw the ...Our plan's been in place since the missus saw the WTC on fire. I really wish we lived in a place that was less crowded and had better mobility, though. Trying to cross a skinny little bridge when eight million panic-stricken suburbatronic units are doing the same doesn't sound like a winning strategy. Hunkering down is our best option in almost every scenario I can think of, and the ones where it isn't generally aren't survivable anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-1154521623557934972006-08-02T07:27:00.000-05:002006-08-02T07:27:00.000-05:00Excellent post, Lawdog. I have to admit, the ONLY ...Excellent post, Lawdog. I have to admit, the ONLY advantage I can think of (off the top of my head) to living in central MA is the lack of natural disasters requiring evacuation - blizzards are easily survivable with a little forethought and usually do NOT require evacuation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com