tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post4003108497490227649..comments2023-11-27T02:17:22.859-06:00Comments on The LawDog Files: Are you sure about that?LawDoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05232684877582591461noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-3328207443070230792012-12-18T15:29:30.293-06:002012-12-18T15:29:30.293-06:00Wow, you sure expect a lot from the Walmart of Spo...Wow, you sure expect a lot from the Walmart of Sporting Goods 8.00 an hour employees.<br />Right or wrong, all you had to do is ask for the Manager, rather than mind wrestling with a fence post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-30837170473995822642012-11-25T20:33:29.231-06:002012-11-25T20:33:29.231-06:00OK, perhaps I shouldn't have used a G18 as an ...OK, perhaps I shouldn't have used a G18 as an example, 'cause then we're getting into paperwork for having an automatic. <br />How about a G30 or 36?Ms.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17393270900141592722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-62759606581235570932012-11-25T20:21:08.648-06:002012-11-25T20:21:08.648-06:00it's a straw purchase. You can give a gun as a...<b>it's a straw purchase. You can give a gun as a gift, no problem, but if they pay you back you're both felons</b><br />Bologna.<br />It's a straw purchase if the person to whom you subsequently sell it isn't legally allowed to have firearms/ammo, and you know that, & you go ahead anyway. <br /><br />But if my friend sees a G18 at the local gun show, & knows I've wanted one, so buys it with the intent to give or sell it to me, s/he is still the purchaser & owner (until it comes within my sight, then it's MINE)... and neither of us is a criminal. Ms.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17393270900141592722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-60665363370701119642012-11-25T20:16:50.885-06:002012-11-25T20:16:50.885-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ms.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17393270900141592722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-50651432079033778842012-11-10T20:39:37.796-06:002012-11-10T20:39:37.796-06:00I bought a CZ P-07 recently at a local shop. Ten d...I bought a CZ P-07 recently at a local shop. Ten days later I get it home and find it came with two 16 round mags. Cool! Trouble is, in this state, 10 round max.<br />Hope they don't get in trouble someday.Skiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05684179171065794525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-40338885211052683422012-11-09T23:11:34.846-06:002012-11-09T23:11:34.846-06:00I think it is some sort of corporate culture that ...I think it is some sort of corporate culture that makes bog box stores give false information, namely "we don't want to spend monies in properly training our firearms sales associates."<br /><br />A couple of years or so and after Dick's opened a store nearby, I decided to pay them a visit, see what were they offering and maybe buy some ammo. They had a decent selection of long guns but no handguns which I found strange.<br />I asked the Pro-Active challenged hipster behind the counter why handguns were not available and with a straight face he told me: "It is against Florida law."<br />I called BS and proceed to ask him about their FFL, 4473 and I got a "pfffft" for answer.<br />I left and never been back. If they have idiots behind the counter like that, I am afraid of what kind of screw ups they can get me in with the Feds because they are not smart enough to squeeze a pimple much less keep important records straight.Miguelhttp://gunfreezone.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-68132008667866532912012-11-09T20:15:20.948-06:002012-11-09T20:15:20.948-06:00@Phillip
You are asked to spell out everything be...@Phillip<br /><br />You are asked to spell out everything because its a BATFE regulation. When semi-occasionally the 4473s are audited by Der GewehrPolizei, each failure to comply is tallied. Enough "dings" and your friendly gunstore becomes a friendly no gun store until further notice. Most FFLs see license suspensions and revocations as "bad". We're sorry y'all have to spell things out, but just like a trip to the johnnie, nothing's finished until the paperwork is dealt with.<br /><br /><br />LawDog,<br /><br />When dealing with chainstores, gun or otherwise, one rule never changes:<br /><br />When You Pay Peanuts, You Get Monkeys.*<br /><br />*(Public Domain. Fair use allowed. May contain peanuts.)<br /><br />Usually when treated thusly, I find it profitable to request the minion's supervisor. On subsequent visits, I also bring bananas - the actual kind - and give them to store help to distract them while I shop.<br /><br />Should Acadummy peruse the number of persons who visit this blog, I should not find surprising some weak attempt by them to kiss up.<br />In that eventuality, I heartily recommend you direct them to the YouTube legendary viral video, and catchy tune "United Breaks Guitars".<br />A few words regarding The Legend Of Jim Zumbo, as only you could do justice to it, might also be in order.<br /><br />These intarwebs are phenomenal, because only here in cyberspace can you get Fortune 500 companies to urinate on their own heads, for no discernable return on investment.<br /><br />Glad to se your sense of humor is intact, and you aren't doing anything to get your blood pressure up.<br /><br />Best Regards,<br />-AesopAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-26816583504150398602012-11-09T17:50:25.686-06:002012-11-09T17:50:25.686-06:00Glad you're back posting, LawDog. Sigh..custom...Glad you're back posting, LawDog. Sigh..customer service does seem to be going the way of scriveners. Condescension is never called for and should be surgically removed from all those involved with dealing with the public. I've never heard of that outfit, but I will not do business with any group of microcephalic twits who can't/won't distinguish between law and policy. Wombatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-48697650490660326802012-11-09T16:50:15.896-06:002012-11-09T16:50:15.896-06:00"I bought a nice rifle, gave it to my friend ..."I bought a nice rifle, gave it to my friend for an early christmas present.<br /><br />He bought me a nice scope (of about the same value) and gave it to me as an early christmas present."<br /><br />But I will choose to do no business with Academy. Ever.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876828579688122237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-7765479069981179842012-11-09T16:17:10.867-06:002012-11-09T16:17:10.867-06:00Shoot LD. like Anonymous at the top said why didn&...<i>Shoot LD. like Anonymous at the top said why didn't you just buy the gun for NFO and give it to him</i><br /><br />I'm going to guess that LD would prefer to avoid committing a felony. Such as, for example, participating in a straw purchase as you describe.Philiphttp://rv.squawk1200.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-83833949518689199542012-11-09T15:54:53.628-06:002012-11-09T15:54:53.628-06:00Shoot LD. like Anonymous at the top said why didn&...Shoot LD. like Anonymous at the top said why didn't you just buy the gun for NFO and give it to him...or [guessing that you might have had it on you] whip out the badge and beat the little bastard over the head with it?Da Curly Wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07631427436506831892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-31871590283519785302012-11-09T15:46:33.182-06:002012-11-09T15:46:33.182-06:00i would think that unless you get something proper...i would think that unless you get something proper from Dah Head Office Folks this is a full bore Rodinon situation.<br /><br /><br />I suppose that it would be improper to use your badge wallet to smack the Shop Dude in a Gibbs Smack. But dropping the Law Enforcement Officer hammer on the dude would not be polite.robert martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10925027454221767119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-14702421854947582772012-11-09T14:54:12.016-06:002012-11-09T14:54:12.016-06:00Reply from Academy:
ContactUsWebForm@academy.com
...Reply from Academy:<br /><i>ContactUsWebForm@academy.com<br /> <br />2:21 PM (30 minutes ago)<br /> <br />to me<br />Thank you for contacting Academy Sports + Outdoors and for your feed back. The blog will be reviewed. Please feel free to contact us if you have any further questions or feedback.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br />C.Small<br />Administrative Support Associate<br />Corporate Customer Service<br />Academy Sports + Outdoors<br />customerservice@academy.com<br />1-888-922-2336</i><br /><br />Don't be surprised, LawDog, if they contact YOU ;-)<br /><br />Semper Fi'<br />DMDiamond Mairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15673366797250424810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-78710643284318526112012-11-09T12:37:10.156-06:002012-11-09T12:37:10.156-06:00"The law provides no "safe harbor" ..."The law provides no "safe harbor" for an FFL who doesn't comply with some provision of the other state's law that he is not familiar with -- so an innocent mistake is an interstate federal violation that can cost him fines, jail time, and/or loss of business."<br /><br />Hence the point of all those laws and why we are all felons. Much easier to control us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-26350191379759544522012-11-09T12:22:22.768-06:002012-11-09T12:22:22.768-06:00Thanks to Jennifer, just shot this off to them:
...Thanks to Jennifer, just shot this off to them: <br /><i>I tried calling your {laughably named} Customer Service number; maybe eMail will get to the correct person. I suggest you read this: http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2012/11/are-you-sure-about-that.html<br /><br />I attempted to tell the phone person I spoke with that a 'global message' needs to be sent to ALL Academy associates/stores - she couldn't be bothered. As I told her, I daresay you've lost quite a few MORE customers than the gentlemen involved in this particular instance.<br /><br />Have fun in the Øbamaconomy!</i><br /><br />Semper Fi'<br />DMDiamond Mairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15673366797250424810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-19567794612780948112012-11-09T12:07:22.104-06:002012-11-09T12:07:22.104-06:00JUST for S & G's, I called Academy's {...JUST for S & G's, I called Academy's {laughingly called} Customer Service 1-888-922-2336; I requested the eMail address of the Customer Service head, the phone person responded that SHE could assist - fine. When I told her of y'all's experience, she informed that ACADEMY'S POLICY is to only sell to states bordering - I told HER that she needs to send a global message to ALL employees/stores, that asserting company policy as Federal law is WRONG - she wanted to know the specific store to address the issue to, I told HER that it doesn't matter which store, if her personnel are lying ............... she "couldn't do anything" - told her there were AT LEAST 4 people who would NOT be trading with Academy again .....................<br /><br />Semper Fi'<br />DM Diamond Mairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15673366797250424810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-81527875169179753312012-11-09T10:18:09.234-06:002012-11-09T10:18:09.234-06:00Glad to see the dog is back.Glad to see the dog is back.Scott_Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14646683071614664257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-72801972002501081562012-11-09T09:43:35.513-06:002012-11-09T09:43:35.513-06:00Academy is an intersting beast. It's leadershi...Academy is an intersting beast. It's leadership tends to not like Guns so much as money. In TX guns and hunting supplies = big money so try sell it. <br /><br />These are the same people that sell me a 22 with ammo. I hand them my chl for paperwork but they have to walk me out the door with my goods before they can hand it to me. While they are aware I have a permit to carry and am most likely armed. <br /><br />I actually laughed and told the sales guy who was decent but "following policy", can't blame him for wanting to stay employed, that the ironic thing is my sidearm would be much more useful if I had bad intentions.Tekehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17347409124682537594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-12205363844841074092012-11-09T08:57:47.177-06:002012-11-09T08:57:47.177-06:00"I'd like to speak to the store manager, ..."I'd like to speak to the store manager, please, right now. Thank you."<br /><br />Repeat as needed until desired effect is achieved.Shrimpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-4383858675766428862012-11-09T08:26:29.121-06:002012-11-09T08:26:29.121-06:00Philip:
The "adjoining state" was the o...Philip:<br /><br />The "adjoining state" was the old law. The new law replaced "adjoining" with "any".<br /><br />However, when I was a gun pimp (while "adjoining state" was still the law), we didn't (as a matter of store policy) sell to anyone but VA residents, simply because we could not be sure that the adjoining states hadn't changed their law without us being aware. The law provides no "safe harbor" for an FFL who doesn't comply with some provision of the other state's law that he is not familiar with -- so an innocent mistake is an interstate federal violation that can cost him fines, jail time, and/or loss of business.<br /><br />But, that doesn;t mean the LAW is the source of teh prohibition -- it would still be store policy, to avoid inadvertently committing a <i>malum prohibitum</i> felony through overlooking some obscure line in another state's code that was buried as a rider in a bill on school bus markings the day before.Geodkythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17340718574781403778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-59210201936353890212012-11-09T08:12:14.532-06:002012-11-09T08:12:14.532-06:00How old was the sales drone? Prior to 1986, that ...How old was the sales drone? Prior to 1986, that in fact was federal law. Several states copied it prior to the 1986 change and haven't updated their laws since. NSSF has a chart detailing said states here: http://www.nssf.org/factsheets/PDF/ContiguousStateRestrict.pdfzeeke42https://www.blogger.com/profile/13782810414231954138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-67809442857301751832012-11-09T08:11:10.003-06:002012-11-09T08:11:10.003-06:00Here is the online contact form to voice any conce...Here is the online contact form to voice any concerns.<br />http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ContactUs_10151_10051_-1Jenniferhttp://injennifershead.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-9227535287986700852012-11-09T08:08:28.976-06:002012-11-09T08:08:28.976-06:00Awe Geez. And I kinda like my local Academy. Qui...Awe Geez. And I kinda like my local Academy. Quite the big head on that one. Not only misinformed but terrible at customer service. Most gun dealers have printouts of the law right there handy. Jenniferhttp://injennifershead.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-37349452527461551292012-11-09T05:25:36.517-06:002012-11-09T05:25:36.517-06:00LawDog I'm glad to see you have recovered from...LawDog I'm glad to see you have recovered from your health issue enough to comment on an ignorant sales type. But don't let him impact on your outlook...after all every body needs an occasional dose of realism!Gafferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09765204313264301299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-73476325476200572892012-11-09T04:32:45.146-06:002012-11-09T04:32:45.146-06:00As Mark Twain (methinks) said:
"The problem w...As Mark Twain (methinks) said:<br />"The problem with most people ain't their ignorance; it's that they know so much that just ain't so."NavyChiefnoreply@blogger.com