tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post6910696560065654670..comments2023-11-27T02:17:22.859-06:00Comments on The LawDog Files: De mortuis nil nisi bonumLawDoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05232684877582591461noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-11571000580483366142018-07-28T02:31:21.781-05:002018-07-28T02:31:21.781-05:00The Excellent Service Providers of Escorts Girls i...The Excellent Service Providers of Escorts Girls in Karachi offer Elite VIP Females Service If you want some unique and memorable date with <a href="http://www.pakistanvipescorts.com/call-girls-in-pakistan/karachi-escorts/" rel="nofollow">Karachi Escorts</a> Girls so this is the right Agency who Provide lot of fun and an unforgettable experiences of <a href="http://www.pakistanvipescorts.com/call-girls-in-pakistan/karachi-escorts/" rel="nofollow">Escort in Karachi</a> in that you never got before Call us we are available Any time at your service with our satisfying Models Visit our Blog and find out more about us.pakescorts646https://www.blogger.com/profile/08544142022419591388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-29527112593383903832018-05-06T13:01:38.571-05:002018-05-06T13:01:38.571-05:00She seems to be the type who would insult dead peo...She seems to be the type who would insult dead people. As a live one, even a 98 year old woman, would surely kick her ass.John Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04875185117306503147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-13958234502966968282018-05-05T18:50:57.520-05:002018-05-05T18:50:57.520-05:00Scribblers & Webfoot: A state university _is_ ...Scribblers & Webfoot: A state university _is_ a government institution, so the First Amendment is applicable. It isn't an absolute right for government employees; e.g., if a police officer posted "I love cracking N------ skulls", with a picture of him in uniform holding a night stick, he would have made it impossible for his department to send him out on patrol, to have him testify in court anytime race was an issue, or to even hold down a desk. The First Amendment doesn't protect his job when his words made it impossible for him to do his job. Likewise, a county clerk that won't do part of her job on religious grounds is going to lose that job. A judge can moonlight as a preacher on Sunday, but he can't deliver a sermon when court is in session...<br /><br />But there is another factor when tenured faculty beclown themselves in public - their contract guarantees tenure, that is, that their job is protected even if their speech grossly embarrasses their employer - and to prevent using other things as excuses when the real goal is to penalize or suppress speech, a tenure contract leaves very few options for firing a professor short of being convicted of a felony. A Biology professor could get religion and start claiming that the Earth was created in 4004 BC and keep his paycheck, although they could insist that he either stick to the curriculum or be shunted off to lecture to an empty room.<br /><br />Anonymous 7:05: An English professor can butcher the language and keep her tenure - but you have to wonder if she only started doing this after gaining tenure, or if the signs that she is incompetent to teach English were all plain to see before then, but were ignored because she fills several minority checkboxes...<br /><br />markmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-47340730429738800712018-05-03T12:50:35.853-05:002018-05-03T12:50:35.853-05:00Another case of Social Media Assisted Career Suici...Another case of Social Media Assisted Career Suicide. <br /><br />It's ironic that the Left is all about the First Amendment when they say something offensive. When a conservative or libertarian says something offensive, it suddenly becomes "hate speech" and must be stopped. <br /><br />At the heart of liberalism, you'll find nothing but hypocrisy. <br /><br />As they say, if it wasn't for double standards, the left wouldn't have any standards at all.EMS Artifacthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02823929263580444608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-62608766375358124972018-05-01T23:27:32.728-05:002018-05-01T23:27:32.728-05:00As I see it, they can't send her to prison for...As I see it, they can't send her to prison for what she said, but they can fire her, because that's a routine disciplinary measure for acting against the interest of her employer.<br /><br />If I said the exact same thing, I would be on the street as soon as my employer found out, even if I did not identify my employer . . . like she did.<br /><br />--WebFoot Logger<br /><br />Webfoot Loggernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-30597708989215330682018-04-26T23:05:35.527-05:002018-04-26T23:05:35.527-05:00And people wonder why I'm an angry SOB. My tax...And people wonder why I'm an angry SOB. My tax dollars support these kinds of shenanigans, despite my personal distaste for them. The alumni ought to close their checkbooks until this matter is resolved.<br />Ulises from CA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-4933278157486416802018-04-26T12:41:13.577-05:002018-04-26T12:41:13.577-05:00Randa Jarrar is a human being?Randa Jarrar is a human being?LawMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01453016360720412631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-88988049519709089712018-04-26T07:05:36.603-05:002018-04-26T07:05:36.603-05:00Her grammar in some of the tweets should be enough...Her grammar in some of the tweets should be enough to get her fired. She is supposed to be an English professor after all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-25024785345627778182018-04-25T14:26:22.733-05:002018-04-25T14:26:22.733-05:00You're absolutely right. They shouldn't fi...You're absolutely right. They shouldn't fire her. And everyone else can let it be known that Fresno State hired her, and that if you spending five figures to send your darling child there, that she may teach that child. Let the chips fall where they may.Bill Peschelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15257587479467531187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-73293958417925666682018-04-24T22:30:10.766-05:002018-04-24T22:30:10.766-05:00The second Civil war will be fought by assassinati...The second Civil war will be fought by assassination, not by military action. Put her on your lists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-16355120731503053702018-04-24T15:10:56.789-05:002018-04-24T15:10:56.789-05:00Fresno State may be unable to fire her but they ca...Fresno State may be unable to fire her but they can assign her to their newly established extension program in say, Caracas or Prudhoe Bay. When the money dries up, Fresno State can lay her off first or, better yet, lay off the fools that voted for her tenure.Jay Deenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-48856853865091110312018-04-24T10:59:35.683-05:002018-04-24T10:59:35.683-05:00I would have to agree with the main principle expr...I would have to agree with the main principle expressed here, in that her employer would have no justification to fire her if she is speaking as a private citizen, using her private equipment, on her own time.<br /><br />However, once she identifies herself as a member of a given group while giving a statement, that group must have the Freedom of Association to no longer associate with her.<br /><br />So in my eyes, this has nothing to do with whether she can call Barbara Bush a racist in public, and everything to do with whether she can cite her authority as a staff member at Fresno State and specifically describe her view as being welcome in that place, which she did.<br /><br />If I say, for instance, "I believe abortion is ethically sound," then I am expressing a First Amendment right to speech. However, if I say, "As a Catholic, I believe that abortion is ethically sound," and they have no right to warn or expel me from their congregation, then they are being denied *their* First Amendment right to association.Gothelittle Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02033938810970984908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-43693255198202072982018-04-24T09:25:15.985-05:002018-04-24T09:25:15.985-05:00Fatherof10 beat me to it. Fresno State (any univer...Fatherof10 beat me to it. Fresno State (any university, for that matter) is NOT equivalent to the Federal government. I wrote a paper in college trying to explain why the government was wrong for saying Wabash College accepted students who got Federal aid, thus they were accepting money from the FedGov and had to admit women to an all-male college. Same as saying if a a student spent $1 (hey, it was a long time ago!) from their student loan on a beer, then Joe's Bar and Grill had to bow to the FedGov. Whether or not they fire her lice-infested odorous butt is wholly dependent on her employment contract. Most of which change "tenured" to "at will" for cause. That being said, hope to see you at NRAAM!ScribblersDadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-84267437323464397742018-04-23T19:54:56.594-05:002018-04-23T19:54:56.594-05:00Embarrassing your employer is a firing offense. Pe...Embarrassing your employer is a firing offense. Period.tim maguirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07717622436074043099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-83638739295970054232018-04-23T19:39:27.168-05:002018-04-23T19:39:27.168-05:00Sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with ...Sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. They changed the rules, not us. We need to make DAMN sure that the idiots that thought it was a good idea to change them get EXACTLY what they asked for. Get it good and hard.<br /><br />The rules changed somewhere around 2008, when the Mozilla CEO got fired. As long as we are going to have speech codes, I'm going to try to make sure they're MY speech codes. I'd rather not have any, but since they insist...<br /><br />If that means that over-educated hemorrhoids lose their jobs, fine.<br /><br />If that means that colleges specializing in Marxist indoctrination and gender studies lose funding, fine.<br /><br />There is the remote possibility that inflicting enough pain will teach them WHY we had those rules in the first place.<br /><br />Loved the Africa Stories, btw. It would make a great TV series.Randyhttp://capitalggeek.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-6203597238145332172018-04-23T17:01:29.304-05:002018-04-23T17:01:29.304-05:00Anonymous @ 7:23 AM:
If the Latin quote that begi...Anonymous @ 7:23 AM:<br /><br />If the Latin quote that begins the OP offends you, I am sorry to hear that. From my hazy recollection of that dead language, I suspected it had something to do with not saying ill of the dead (mortuis sounds like “mortal” and “bene” means good, so in the mongrelized translation, it would sound like “of the dead” (de mortuis) “nothing but good” (nil nisi bonum)). There is a missing word from that, alas, now uncommon phrase (that being “dicendum”- it means “to say.”) Lest you think this is pretentious crap, know that I had to refresh my memory with wikipedia. There's a world of information out there for the curious. And the forgetful ones that didn't pay nearly as much attention to their teachers as they did to catching frogs.<br /><br />Of Mister Dawg, while he's likely much smarter than me- a low bar to be sure- I find his practical wisdom and common sense to be the more attention getting factors. Your mileage may, of course, vary.<br /><br />As for Miz Jarrar, I believe her just desserts are to be heard far and wide. To let any and everyone know just what sort of person she really is. I'm sure Fresno could, at any time, issue a statement either in support of or condemnation of her stated opinions, if they so chose. Given the openly expressed proclivities of (most of) the Californiafried the latter is doubtful. I've no opinions whatsoever on her other qualifications, or lack thereof. She may be a gifted teacher and educator. She might even help little old ladies across the street.<br /><br />Wait, scratch that last one. Probably not.<br /><br />If Fresno wishes to retain this reeking albatross, by all means they should. The stink ain't going to die down quick. I'll not be calling for her expulsion, no, not I. Let 'er reap those consequences as long as she may. It might just make another would-be agitator think twice.<br /><br />Maybe.Dan Lanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08236779672776148133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-4839238039241348762018-04-23T13:36:53.031-05:002018-04-23T13:36:53.031-05:00I get what you're saying. And you're righ...I get what you're saying. And you're right.<br /><br />That said, the left has set up a set of rules that Nohbody talks about, and that is all about silencing people. And the only way to get back to even keel is to <b>make the left live by their own rules</b>. Once they've had their fill of it, they might be willing to go back to the old rules.<br /><br />But I won't hold my breath.I R A Darth Aggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03580296517949279444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-87242609353056035232018-04-23T12:36:59.363-05:002018-04-23T12:36:59.363-05:00I like the Executive Summary.I like the Executive Summary.Quartermasternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-19719423304406278192018-04-23T11:29:34.260-05:002018-04-23T11:29:34.260-05:00There is also the matter of double standards, is t...There is also the matter of double standards, is there not? Conservatives failing to use only the most obsequious language about the latest Left wing mania (the ever-increasing letter salad of LGBTQQIP2SAALS/MFT and its concurrent demand for unpronounceable pronouns), are vilified in the harshest rhetoric imaginable. Opining that Elizabeth Warren, say, wore an unflattering color today is met with a barrage of accusations of hate speech.<br /><br />Some of us would appreciate civility on both sides of the conversation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-38194522211436339572018-04-23T07:23:09.492-05:002018-04-23T07:23:09.492-05:00You know what hacks me off almost as much as peopl...You know what hacks me off almost as much as people who disdain the 1st Amendment? People who use foreign language quotes with no translation. We're all impressed, I'm sure, by their pompous erudition. Which I'm sure is their point in the first place. It certainly isn't in the pursuit of good communication. Stop being a supercilious jerk. I'd take your point of view more seriously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-50301552616865043042018-04-23T05:46:14.830-05:002018-04-23T05:46:14.830-05:00The best way to punish her and Fresno State is to ...The best way to punish her and Fresno State is to publish her comments far and wide. Be sure to include that she is of Palestinian descent, which explains so much. Put up a billboard near campus with her face and comments, titled THIS IS FRESNO STATE. Put it on mailers and send it to donors. Let her comments speak for themselves and destroy support for her and her university.Steverinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04876927630869719536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-52235231985661544612018-04-23T04:47:03.151-05:002018-04-23T04:47:03.151-05:00While I agree in principle with the post, given ho...While I agree in principle with the post, given how for years anyone to the political right of Chairman Mao has been fired from their job and/or virtually pilloried for even innocuous statements of fact by leftist mobs or been silenced out of fear of said mobs, I find it difficult to muster much ambition to defend her.<br /><br />What's good for the goose is good for the gander, in short (for certain values of "good", granted).Nohbodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06798562356257152626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-7660037860411802872018-04-23T03:46:44.776-05:002018-04-23T03:46:44.776-05:00Sadly, as a citizen of the great state of Californ...Sadly, as a citizen of the great state of California, I am required to help fund Fresno State. I very much doubt their money will "dry up" as any shortfall will be covered by the taxpayers of CA.caseym54https://www.blogger.com/profile/03452934303641667027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-17882613234603556162018-04-22T18:59:59.659-05:002018-04-22T18:59:59.659-05:00"Congress shall make no law..."
I thin..."Congress shall make no law..." <br /><br />I think it's possible to argue that this isn't a First Amendment issue.<br /><br />But it's simpler to fire her for damaging her employer... Oops, this is California. Fresno State may be weighing the damage she's done against the trouble and expense of lawsuits.Margaret Ballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18048775257764349955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-13218555041922691462018-04-22T08:56:09.069-05:002018-04-22T08:56:09.069-05:00I must respectfully disagree. The constitution as...I must respectfully disagree. The constitution as amended exists for one purpose only. To protect the creator(states and citizens) from the creation(federal government). Like Dr Frankenstein attempting to protect himself from the monster he created.<br /><br />It follows that the first amendment protects Jarrar from prosecution for her free speech. The first amendment does not protect her from persecution or employment action for her speech. Any employee private or government is subject to employment action for their words that come back to haunt the employer. Their only protection here is their employment contract.<br /><br />An employer can fire an employee at the discretion of the owners of the company and company policies established by them. If the employer is a government agency then the owners are the citizens of that entity(California, and possibly the fedgov due to funding). Imagine if an employee of Bugscuffle SO or a Texas Ranger made statements that inflamed their employer. I am certain that employment action would follow. <br /><br />It is clearly appropriate for Fresno State to fire Jarrar if her employment contract allows it. It is also clearly proper for California citizens to put pressure on Fresno State to do so. It is also appropriate for other states to put political pressure on Fresno State. And as you said, it is appropriate for private citizens to refuse to support Fresno State with their finances and their children.<br /><br />The only true answer is to eliminate federal and state involvement in education.<br /><br />Fatherof10noreply@blogger.com