tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post3883298189505919193..comments2023-11-27T02:17:22.859-06:00Comments on The LawDog Files: Do let me get this straightLawDoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05232684877582591461noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-20254717345465787042010-08-05T21:36:42.512-05:002010-08-05T21:36:42.512-05:00D Fischer, the problem is as mentioned...the leake...D Fischer, the problem is as mentioned...the leakers usually have an agenda. You/we/everyone only gets the side of the story they want to get out, and like the old saying goes, the accusations are front page, denials are 2 lines buried in the D section, and the acquittals don't even make the evening edition.<br /><br />...and there is a good likelihood that both Afghani's will die, and our sources of information will be much less likely to come forward, meaning Americans and our allies will die.<br /><br />Inexcusable.CDHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-3404096689737635972010-08-04T22:16:43.245-05:002010-08-04T22:16:43.245-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.phlegmfatalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08636803080525003892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-16138236055431468422010-08-02T09:40:31.356-05:002010-08-02T09:40:31.356-05:00Anyone got any instances of wiki posting anything ...Anyone got any instances of wiki posting anything derogatory about socialit/commuist/theocratic/<br />oligarchic governments? I don't remember seeing any. Which pretty much kills their whole "We do it for the good of the world." blather.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-53639166501763203802010-08-01T22:31:24.550-05:002010-08-01T22:31:24.550-05:00Ethically I think the leaker should be strung from...Ethically I think the leaker should be strung from the nearest yardarm by the neck until dead, dead, dead. That's the usual sentence for treason.<br />And that's coming from someone who is retired Navy, DD-214 available upon request.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11308171394825291900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-89817957576091210762010-08-01T19:33:44.227-05:002010-08-01T19:33:44.227-05:00Most everyone seems to believe that the government...Most everyone seems to believe that the government is being truthful. Hmmm. Given their record, I have to wonder if this is not a planned leak, a disinformation campaign, a false flag operation. How do we KNOW that the names leaked are those of U.S. sympathizers? If they are, how do we know that they are not dangerous to their control, and thus in need of elimination? Wheels within wheels, mirrors, and smoke .....CarlSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-91936144143060517782010-08-01T10:08:27.235-05:002010-08-01T10:08:27.235-05:00+1 to Well Seasoned Fool's comment. We should...+1 to Well Seasoned Fool's comment. We should bundle WikiLeaks entire operation up and extridite them to Afganistan to await trial for complicity in the reprisal murders that are sure to follow. Actions have consequneces and PEOPLE MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS! I do not excuse governmental agencies in that statement but goverments are always eventually taken to task for wrong headedness. The same must apply to leakers, traitors and profiteering scumbags who think they are above it because their "goals" were lofty..45ACP+Phttp://ancientflatulence.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-24240357595662463342010-08-01T07:38:10.335-05:002010-08-01T07:38:10.335-05:00Good gracious! I hate stupid people.Good gracious! I hate stupid people.Ladybug Crossinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10396101565678823825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-75789963033945640182010-07-31T22:04:58.943-05:002010-07-31T22:04:58.943-05:00Since the 1960s, our country's children, mysel...Since the 1960s, our country's children, myself included, have been very heavily indoctrinated in several areas:<br /> <br />War is Bad. And is never necessary, because you can always reason with lunatic dictators.<br /> <br />Activism is Good. Anything that is wanted by the majority must be made to happen. And if the majority doesn't like it, well, they are not enlightened, and must be made to see the light, at least until they advocate some form of mob rule...<br /> <br />The Police and Soldiers need to come when you have a problem, but should be locked away in cells otherwise, because they are all racist baby killers.<br /> <br />And all the basic offshoots... Military training, and group peer pressure, cannot overcome this. It's built into a lot of people. They actually refuse to open their minds and think for themselves, and then someone comes along and tells them...<br /> <br />"Psst... Support freedom by telling us everything that is going on! Be an enlightened activist, like we are! Not a bad racist baby killer, like Bush!"bogiehttp://www.pixtiva.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-48396442850545817062010-07-31T21:13:54.934-05:002010-07-31T21:13:54.934-05:00Link of interest...
http://www.breitbart.com/arti...Link of interest...<br /><br />http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9HA9VB00&show_article=1<br /><br />For the record, anyone who would violate their oaths and STEAL this information and pass it to a foreign national, is a traitor and should be dealt with as such.Midwest Chickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17296327673871169304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-29415129754875170862010-07-31T20:25:24.469-05:002010-07-31T20:25:24.469-05:00By the way, some new info on the suspected leaker:...By the way, some new info on the suspected leaker:<br />http://tinyurl.com/3any47qFirehandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04562365951182027709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-55677542267997142142010-07-31T20:14:08.340-05:002010-07-31T20:14:08.340-05:00KBCraig, it's been shown that the section of v...KBCraig, it's been shown that the section of video the WikiLeaks weenies and the traitor released was shown WAY out of context specifically to make it look like the US military didn't care about killing unarmed civilians.<br /><br />Second, whether the video showed wrongdoing or not, the bastard who slipped it out violated his oath; hell YES they're going to find and prosecute him.<br /><br />Fisher, they've got the jerk who dumped the documents to WL; we'll find out if he thinks his game was worth the consequences. But I wonder if he and the WL dirtbags care about the Afghans and troops lives they've put at high risk? <br /><br />I doubt it.Firehandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04562365951182027709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-40087918124689571752010-07-31T17:35:46.298-05:002010-07-31T17:35:46.298-05:00LawDog, et al.:
Perhaps I should have been more c...LawDog, et al.:<br /><br />Perhaps I should have been more clear in my comment and, indeed, perhaps I should have read through more of the documents prior to commenting. Mea culpa.<br /><br />In short, I do not condone the release of information identifying Afghan informants, sources, agents, etc. Such information should have been redacted prior to publication. I certainly don't approve of whatever nefarious action the Taliban is likely to consider doing; supporting such actions would be indefensible in the extreme.<br /><br />However, I agree with Anonymous' and tpmoney's above comments: Wikileaks serves as a valuable check against government (both US and foreign) secrecy and malfeasance. The leaked documents reveal a different side of the Afghan war than is portrayed through official government sources, and has identified several troubling aspects of the war that were otherwise unknown by the public.<br /><br />Blowing the whistle on wrongdoing, wherever it might be found, is valuable, even though the whistleblower may later be punished.<br /><br />I hope that the original source knew what he was doing when he submitted the documents to Wikileaks, and that he is personally willing to accept the consequences of his actions. I hope that he thought long and hard about his actions, and believed that the benefits of bringing these documents to light outweighed the negative repercussions to himself and others.<br /><br />Like Anonymous, I think it would be prudent to commission an independent investigation into the leaked documents, specifically into the troubling actions detailed therein.<br /><br />I won't bother to reply to or comment on the various ad hominem comments made above other than to say that while people may disagree with me, there's no reason for personal attacks.D. Fishernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-24126029048518392162010-07-31T15:00:50.560-05:002010-07-31T15:00:50.560-05:00The guy that posted that comment evidently is lack...The guy that posted that comment evidently is lacking in *any* sort of sense. And IMHO leaking all those documents would be considered treason, and let's hang him from the yardarms.Dianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17765443131151220391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-5457586652758817712010-07-31T14:31:25.865-05:002010-07-31T14:31:25.865-05:00Wikileaks has shown it isn't interested in the...Wikileaks has shown it isn't interested in the slightest with what is right....they appear to be concerned more with what can sink the effort in Afganistan the most.<br />They just showed, to the world, where their true feelings and political leanings are.<br /><br />Freedom of info be damned: you still have to do what is morally right, if for no other reason than to be able to look at yourself in the mirror, and not come to the realization that pond scum cares more about people than you do.Iowa Gunslingernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-72914552999945105832010-07-31T12:43:45.957-05:002010-07-31T12:43:45.957-05:00We whacked the Rosenbergs for less.We whacked the Rosenbergs for less.Heath Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16176723284131320506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-88214004872595091612010-07-31T12:25:00.142-05:002010-07-31T12:25:00.142-05:00So if I personally think that Bozo here is up to n...So if I personally think that Bozo here is up to no-good, I am morally justified in putting all his pertinent information on the web?? Is that what he's getting at?<br /><br />Fine with me. And if someone gets hurt because of it, I can still claim the moral high ground, right?Retired Spookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07162727356116384883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-60225127246534863812010-07-31T11:05:39.532-05:002010-07-31T11:05:39.532-05:001. The leaker(s), when found, should be turned ov...1. The leaker(s), when found, should be turned over to the Aghanis or US or NATO units for summary (and I do mean summary) judgement and disposition as they find appropriate.<br />2. Seems to me that the same might be said for the folks who run the website, who seem to have no morals or ethics whatsoever.Ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14377326478767097625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-70299827526791298492010-07-31T10:45:05.717-05:002010-07-31T10:45:05.717-05:00Groundhog suspects ... the word 'ethics' ...<b>Groundhog</b> suspects <i> ... the word 'ethics' these days has about as much effect as the word racist.</i><br /><br />Yep. Once--<i>once</i>--an instructor at one of my employers' mandatory annual ethics training sessions asked for our personal definitions of ethics, then made the mistake of calling on me. The definition I gave was "Ethics: All we've got left after abandoning principles, morals, and scruples".<br /><br />That earned me a couple of intense scoldings for being disruptive. The expression on the instructor's face was worth it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-20717407015154687982010-07-31T08:24:13.417-05:002010-07-31T08:24:13.417-05:00The problem is, the idea and concept of wikileaks ...The problem is, the idea and concept of wikileaks is great. Our government should have a considerably more checks upon it than it does, and if the threat of potential damaging leaks helps check the government, that's a good thing.<br /><br />The problem is, the people who run these sites (and usually the people submitting to them as well) more often than not have an agenda and an axe to grind. They think far to highly of themselves and see themselves as some sort of crusader. This leads to extremely clouded judgment and stupid behavior.tpmoneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-52316026626515202602010-07-31T07:46:20.077-05:002010-07-31T07:46:20.077-05:00The leaker signed agreements to protect the US'...The leaker signed agreements to protect the US's secrets and he violated to those agreements by leaking information. I'm sorry but I'm pretty sure that violating agreements is unethical.... and that's the BEFORE you consider the consequences of his actions.Beakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14270771903731071219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-28039276530431010552010-07-31T04:29:23.836-05:002010-07-31T04:29:23.836-05:00Okay, let's all take a moment to adjust our mo...Okay, let's all take a moment to adjust our moral compass:<br /><br />1. Wikileaks posts leaked gunship footage of U.S. Army Apache helicopters killing and/or wounding innocent bystanders and children. Also included is footage of U.S. Army combat medics doing their best to save those children.<br />2. The action is officially defended by the U.S. Army.<br />3. The Army pursues the soldier who released the video, even while they claim it shows no wrongdoing.<br />4. ???<br />5. Lawsuit, slash Profit.KBCraignoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-59013470847046515352010-07-30T22:51:28.958-05:002010-07-30T22:51:28.958-05:00I would hope that the military would have combed t...I would hope that the military would have combed through the leaked materially thoroughly and located each person named, and their family, and taken steps to protect and possibly re-locate them to safety.<br /><br />Then, quietly track down the leaking douche and dispose.rsjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-59364164815939950742010-07-30T22:04:00.773-05:002010-07-30T22:04:00.773-05:00Releasing names or identifiable information that p...Releasing names or identifiable information that puts people at risk is wrong.<br /><br />But I would like to see an independent investigation into the leaked material, and see if there were items that could have been released without damaging any person's safety.<br /><br />And if there were items of that nature, I'd like to hear an explanation why they weren't released.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-33960340781881370932010-07-30T21:29:54.831-05:002010-07-30T21:29:54.831-05:00Since Afghani citizens are going to die because of...Since Afghani citizens are going to die because of the leaks, turn to leakers over to the mercies of the Afghan courts. If found guilty, the Afghanis can apply their brand of justice.Well Seasoned Foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16670165728759453075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22957834.post-53266848918415834392010-07-30T20:55:51.216-05:002010-07-30T20:55:51.216-05:00They had the name and picture of the guy who runs/...They had the name and picture of the guy who runs/owns Wikileaks the other day. Looks like [in actual looks and in his name] Eurotrash to me. One doubts he's even an actual US citizen. Therefore he don't give a damn what kinda damage he might do in his self righteous indignation.Da Curly Wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07631427436506831892noreply@blogger.com